{"id":187,"date":"2018-03-16T19:49:21","date_gmt":"2018-03-16T19:49:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/polemical.uk\/politico\/?p=187"},"modified":"2018-03-16T19:55:50","modified_gmt":"2018-03-16T19:55:50","slug":"all-sides-being-played-by-all","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/polemical.uk\/politico\/2018\/03\/16\/all-sides-being-played-by-all\/","title":{"rendered":"All Sides Being Played By All"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This was a comment that I made one year ago today, made and forgotten until now. Interesting.<\/p>\n<p><strong>16th March 2017 Continuation of Dutch election comments<\/strong>.<br \/>\nHaving already said that there was more to write, the following morning, the day of the Dutch election, I had absolutely no feeling what so ever to do so and considered, as is often the case, to just let it just pass and forget it. However early this morning I awoke at 04:40 and felt the urge to write down the thoughts I had on Tuesday but which had not been completed.<br \/>\nIt looks like a good result in the Dutch elections. I really expected the Turkish demonstrations to push people to vote overwhelmingly for Geert Wilders party but it looks like they turned to alternative right wing parties also with concerns about Islamic Immigration.<br \/>\nAs a result of the Turkish agitation I had been expecting people to vote in favour of Geert Wilders party and the result showed that there was a huge movement away from the liberal left with gains also for other parties extolling his values.<br \/>\nIt was the agitation that seemed to coincide with the preceding day of the forthcoming election and which drew media focus on the protests, perhaps for emphasis, but there was only brief attention given to Germany and seemingly a side note reference to the fact that France had allowed rallies to go ahead there. In Switzerland permission was also declined, then persuasion to allow based on upholding free speech then agreement not to go ahead because of fears for her personal safety. There was no animosity as a result of this. (There is a possible reason for this and the clue could be in the fact that it has historically served as the banker for despots and in this role has always managed to maintain neutral status at times of war).<br \/>\nBecause a regular Facebook contributor had previously posted a photograph of Geert Wilders in Jewish costume complete with the scull cap taking part in a ceremony, this image kept coming to mind amongst other thoughts so decided to pose some questions. I had previously heard about The rejection of Geert Wilders on his visit to the UK years ago and accepted that is par for the course for anybody who stands in a position to challenge the establishment so that was pretty normal, and although I am aware of Zionism and the problems that are said to stem from it, it is not a hobby horse of mine so tend to reserve judgement as well as comment. However in this case thoughts seemed to crystallise around these issues, feeling them to be a significant link and relevant context.<br \/>\nOn searching I found an article of Geert Wilders attending a meeting in California held by the American Freedom Alliance in which he was proclaiming that Countries need Zionism. For him to be openly proclaiming Zionism then it is reasonable to believe that this organisation is also Zionist. It is interesting how Wilders party also includes &#8221;Freedom&#8221; in its name.<br \/>\nThe AFA seems to be making all the right noises that would appeal to the anti establishment frame of mind and contains all of the popular issues that people are generally concerned with and you would never know if there were Zionist tendencies or not. However an organisation that seemingly supports the AFA wrote an article that casts them in a different light to the impression given on their own web site.<\/p>\n<p>[Quote]: \u201cMy friends, what we need today is Zionism for the nations of Europe,\u201d Wilders, founder and leader of the Party for Freedom in the Netherlands, said at the \u201cEurope\u2019s Last Stand?\u201d conference, organized by the American Freedom Alliance.&#8221; Posted in 06\/10\/2013<br \/>\nby JNS.org [unquote]<\/p>\n<p>Looking from the Turkish angle it is evident that Turkey and Israel have historically worked together in Intelligence, Security and subversion and although they had fallen out they are now back together again since 2010 when it was the IDF that approached Turkey. This came about because Syria blocked a gas pipeline that was to run from Arabia and Qatar all the way to Israel and ultimately across Turkey to Italy for sale through Europe, pushing the Russians out of this market. The deal failed in 2009 and this is why I believe Israel re established relations with Turkey in 2010 and the war for regime change in Syria began in 2011.<br \/>\nTurkey has been a player regarding ISIS in Syria and it has been reported that ISIS casualties receive medical treatment in Israel. It has also been mentioned that America, under Obama, had been responsible for creating ISIS. The pipeline from Turkey to Haifa in Israel is still waiting to be connected so it seems that the war in Syria will not end until the connection can be made and Russia remains Assad&#8217;s ally therefore it looks like Russia is being played by Turkey in the scheme of things.<br \/>\nI also seems that Israel regards Holland as the gateway into the EU, particularly because it is multi lingual so this gives sense to why they would want one of their own running the country.<br \/>\nHere is a comment that shows that there had been organised agitators:<\/p>\n<p>[Quote] Dov Segal<br \/>\nThis report is from AFP journalists. As usual, misleading.<br \/>\nAccording to the AFP.<br \/>\n&#8220;After several hours of calm demonstrations, police moved in to disperse over 1,000 people gathered close to the consulate, charging the crowd on horseback and using dogs to regain control.<br \/>\nProtesters hit back, throwing rocks at riot police, while hundreds of cars jammed the streets blaring their horns and revving their engines.&#8221;<br \/>\nWhat actually happened?<br \/>\nThere was a relatively peaceful demonstration outside the consulate in Rotterdam. Lots of Allahu Akbars and Turkish songs. They were waiting for a speech from a Turkish minister.<br \/>\nWhen they heard that the minister had been sent back to Germany most of the Dutch\/Turks started to leave.<br \/>\nAs the demonstrators were leaving, the Dutch riot police started to stand down, moving back to their trucks.<br \/>\nThen a group of about 200 young Turks began to attack the police from behind. The riot police regrouped and charged their attackers.<br \/>\nSounds a bit different to the AFP narrative.<br \/>\nThe AFP forgot something as well.<br \/>\nThe rioters were not singing Turkish songs any more. They were hurling epithets at the police.<br \/>\nThey were screaming, &#8220;Jews, cancer Jews&#8221;.<br \/>\nMar 12, 2017 9:54am [unquote]<\/p>\n<p>RGH<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This was a comment that I made one year ago today, made and forgotten until now. Interesting. 16th March 2017 Continuation of Dutch election comments. Having already said that there was more to write, the following morning, the day of the Dutch election, I had absolutely no feeling what so ever to do so and&hellip;<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/polemical.uk\/politico\/2018\/03\/16\/all-sides-being-played-by-all\/\" title=\"Continue reading &lsquo;All Sides Being Played By All&rsquo;\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-187","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/polemical.uk\/politico\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/187","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/polemical.uk\/politico\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/polemical.uk\/politico\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/polemical.uk\/politico\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/polemical.uk\/politico\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=187"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/polemical.uk\/politico\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/187\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":193,"href":"https:\/\/polemical.uk\/politico\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/187\/revisions\/193"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/polemical.uk\/politico\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=187"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/polemical.uk\/politico\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=187"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/polemical.uk\/politico\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=187"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}